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Messagepar Hiramloni » Ven 19 Mai 2006 1:49

je comprend mais je ne vais pas croire n'importe quoi...
jesus ressucitait des gens guerissait etc... et tout cela en claquant des doigts...
ecoutez... y doit y avoir une explication.. peut importe ce qu'elle est..

la foi.. peut-etre... alors c'est la preuve que les maladies etait psycologique...
c la confiance qui les a gueri.. evidemment ca se pourrait...
mais la se n,est plus un miracle c du charisme...
peut etre...
Hiramloni
 
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Messagepar helvetius » Ven 19 Mai 2006 14:57

Il n'y a aucuns arguments "miracles" qui puisse répondre à vos questions. Si dès l'abord et avant tout examen, vous êtes décidés à nier le surnaturel, jamais vous ne comprendrez l'histoire du salut de l'humanité en Christ. Il est quelque chose qui dépasse notre raison (bien que ne la contredisant pas) et qui ne peuvent être rabaissé à des vues purement humaines.

Cordialement,
helvetius
 
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Messagepar Noel » Ven 19 Mai 2006 15:15

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Messagepar Hiramloni » Sam 20 Mai 2006 1:16

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Messagepar P. Joseph-Marie » Dim 21 Mai 2006 18:10

Désolé de mon retard, mais je prêchais une retraite, et j’essayais (en même temps !) de répondre aux innombrables sollicitations (interview, émissions radio et TV) concernant le Da Vinci Code ! C’est la limite de notre forum : j’avais arrêté parce que je ne pouvais pas « tenir le rythme », et comme mon emploi du temps ne s’est pas allégé (bien au contraire !) je risque à nouveau d’avoir de sérieux retards dans mes réponses : patience donc !

Pour répondre à la question : il y a deux manières de faire des « miracles » (c'est-à-dire d’obtenir des résultats qui transcendent les possibilités de la simple nature) : en se faisant aider par les forces d’en-bas (c'est-à-dire les entités du monde occulte) ou par les forces d’en-haut (la grâce de l’Esprit Saint). Nous croyons que Jésus opérait des miracles dans la force de l’Esprit et non dans celle du Prince de ce monde. Lorsque c’est l’Esprit Saint qui agit, on parle de « charisme », réservant le terme de « pouvoir » pour les exploits préternaturels obtenus avec l’aide des esprits de ce monde.
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